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	<title>Comments on: US News to Correct Some Data &#8211; Not Changing Rankings</title>
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		<title>By: Occam's Razor</title>
		<link>http://lawschoolheadlines.com/us-news-to-correct-some-data-not-changing-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>Occam's Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that:

1. U.S. News was aware Brooklyn had a part-time program due to past responses and other data about the part-time program Brooklyn supplied; and

2. Brooklyn notified U.S. News of its intention to omit the part-time LSAT and GPA data.

The &quot;internal consistency&quot; you point out actually lends some credibility to Brooklyn&#039;s account.  I can imagine a low-level administrator filling in the totals of the part-time (null) and full-time numbers before submitting the form.  It does not, however, absolve U.S. News of its responsibility to investigate obviously bad data.  U.S. News was on notice and failed to do anything about it.  I mean, seriously, the editors of this blog, JD Undergrounders, and dozens of ATL posters were on this as soon as the rankings were leaked.  It was not hard to figure out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that:</p>
<p>1. U.S. News was aware Brooklyn had a part-time program due to past responses and other data about the part-time program Brooklyn supplied; and</p>
<p>2. Brooklyn notified U.S. News of its intention to omit the part-time LSAT and GPA data.</p>
<p>The &#8220;internal consistency&#8221; you point out actually lends some credibility to Brooklyn&#8217;s account.  I can imagine a low-level administrator filling in the totals of the part-time (null) and full-time numbers before submitting the form.  It does not, however, absolve U.S. News of its responsibility to investigate obviously bad data.  U.S. News was on notice and failed to do anything about it.  I mean, seriously, the editors of this blog, JD Undergrounders, and dozens of ATL posters were on this as soon as the rankings were leaked.  It was not hard to figure out.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would disagree that &quot;all signs&quot; pointed to the numbers as inaccurate.  The numbers that Brooklyn presented to US News -- showing no part time students (by leaving blanks there) and therefore full-time numbers which equalled the combined numbers --  would look internally consistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would disagree that &#8220;all signs&#8221; pointed to the numbers as inaccurate.  The numbers that Brooklyn presented to US News &#8212; showing no part time students (by leaving blanks there) and therefore full-time numbers which equalled the combined numbers &#8212;  would look internally consistent.</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Razor</title>
		<link>http://lawschoolheadlines.com/us-news-to-correct-some-data-not-changing-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>Occam's Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Harvey:

Of course it was &quot;given the chance.&quot;  It just lazily accepted the numbers as accurate when all signs pointed otherwise.  That&#039;s poor journalism, regardless of whether Brooklyn&#039;s bad data was a purposeful misrepresentation or just a stupid mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Harvey:</p>
<p>Of course it was &#8220;given the chance.&#8221;  It just lazily accepted the numbers as accurate when all signs pointed otherwise.  That&#8217;s poor journalism, regardless of whether Brooklyn&#8217;s bad data was a purposeful misrepresentation or just a stupid mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; U.S. News would then be free to disregard the data entirely and leave Brooklyn unranked. But it didn’t.

US News wasn&#039;t given the chance to disregard the blank space left by Brooklyn in the combined full/part time numbers because Brooklyn did not leave a blank space there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; U.S. News would then be free to disregard the data entirely and leave Brooklyn unranked. But it didn’t.</p>
<p>US News wasn&#8217;t given the chance to disregard the blank space left by Brooklyn in the combined full/part time numbers because Brooklyn did not leave a blank space there.</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Razor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occam's Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Anonymous

They&#039;re not &quot;policemen,&quot; they&#039;re journalists compiling rankings -- rankings which are the single most profitable thing the magazine does all year.  I honestly don&#039;t understand either your hostility or your incredulity that someone would try to hold a magazine accountable for the rankings it publishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anonymous</p>
<p>They&#8217;re not &#8220;policemen,&#8221; they&#8217;re journalists compiling rankings &#8212; rankings which are the single most profitable thing the magazine does all year.  I honestly don&#8217;t understand either your hostility or your incredulity that someone would try to hold a magazine accountable for the rankings it publishes.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Play nice everyone, don&#039;t make us play moderator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Play nice everyone, don&#8217;t make us play moderator.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah ok Occam, US News is to blame for being mediocre policemen.

gtfo with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah ok Occam, US News is to blame for being mediocre policemen.</p>
<p>gtfo with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Razor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occam's Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Harvey

If you read the statement, Brooklyn clearly states that it intended to leave the part-time numbers blank and alerted U.S. News to the fact that it would be doing so on principle.  And sure, U.S. News would then be free to disregard the data entirely and leave Brooklyn unranked.  But it didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Harvey</p>
<p>If you read the statement, Brooklyn clearly states that it intended to leave the part-time numbers blank and alerted U.S. News to the fact that it would be doing so on principle.  And sure, U.S. News would then be free to disregard the data entirely and leave Brooklyn unranked.  But it didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Occam&#039;s razor is correct, and the intention was to leave the combined full-time/part-time numbers blank, was the intent then to let US News rank them without that information?  Like if you take a test and leave a question blank -- get a 0 on that question which counts for X % of your score.  I am guessing they drop to the fourth tier if that were the case,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Occam&#8217;s razor is correct, and the intention was to leave the combined full-time/part-time numbers blank, was the intent then to let US News rank them without that information?  Like if you take a test and leave a question blank &#8212; get a 0 on that question which counts for X % of your score.  I am guessing they drop to the fourth tier if that were the case,</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Razor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occam's Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Save your sympathy.  I like it, and I&#039;m graduating debt-free with a job.  Good luck to you in all your future endeavors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Save your sympathy.  I like it, and I&#8217;m graduating debt-free with a job.  Good luck to you in all your future endeavors.</p>
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